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Iraq Equals Israel For America
Who's We?  Is Israel is an Arab nation?
Gaza pullout = death of millions?
This War of Subjugation
U.S. on thin prophetic ice
U.S. Walking in Israel's Steps:  Al-Sadr All Powerful?
The World against God
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The Sleeping Giant is Not Awake

by Octaman

September 9, 2004

Disclaimer:  I am speaking logically from the standpoint of the west, and not Biblically from the standpoint of the Church

The war on terror is lost, because it was never begun.  There is currently an absurd low level of warfare being waged against global terror.  It should be obvious to all but the mentally blind, those who can't see the meaning behind televised beheadings.  It should be plain to all but the morally deaf, uncaring to the wailing screams of the victims Islamic terrorism. There is supposed to be a war being fought against the avowed enemy of Western civilization, but there isn't.  In response to September 11th  2001, it is almost as though the sleeping giant felt the buzzing of a mere fly.  Barely awakened to notice the oncoming onslaught of murdering Moslem hoards, the giant brushed at the insect and promptly hit the snooze button.

Here in my own neighborhood in Washington State there is a place where I could easily and quite literally drive up highway 16 to the Bremerton Naval Shipyard, park my car on the side of the road not more than a 9 iron golf shot away from several American battleships.  From there I could take my time and I could detonate any amount of ordinance I could carry with me in my pickup truck, or I could use a rocket launcher and hit the vessels without needing to aim, they are so close.

I could have nukes or chemicals, and what's more, I believe I might easily get away and never be found.  I've noticed this for years and it's always bothered me, even before 9/11. It is one whale of a soft hard target, but you also have power plants and chemical facilities to protect, as well as oil refineries and miles of pipelines, however...

Islamic Nazi's are not going to attack hard targets.  No, we already see what will be faced one inevitable day in America, just by looking at the attacks already inflicted by these mindless Mullah-led murdering automatons throughout the world.  Instead of attacking battleships, (which would be no problem!) they will attack schools and hospitals, or wherever they can find the maximum number of people with the minimum ability to defend themselves, and these will be butchered en masse.  They also will make sure to find significant gatherings so that their acts of murder will appear the most heinous.

Whether or not President Bush is a brilliant man, or whether he was led by God in some way, or coerced by a military conspiracy or whatever theory you may like to dish up, the fact is that his move to go right into Bahgdad was the only proper decision to be made  by any leader wanting to protect his people long term.  The move to go to Iraq was purely defensive, and not the offensive move many deem it to be.  Indeed it was the ONLY MOVE that could have been made by any serious player looking at the global chess board who is wanting to win.

If the West wants to have any chance to say checkmate at the end of this game, strategically the only long term strategy available to them is to spread freedom, and most importantly, information, in hopes of beginning to re-educate a giant population of Arab Moslems who live in gross darkness and superstition.

The false religion of Mohammedanism is the root cause of their propensity to behead people on live television. It is their fanatical adherence to the false notions about Allah that enables them to pack as many spikes and ball bearings into the largest plastic explosives you can make.  It is specifically this form of devil worship that encourages them to hang these bombs over the smallest children they can find.

Certainly THIS is the very kind of attack that the west will face again and again, that is unless those maniacal Moslems change their religion of hate for something else, and anything, ANYTHING AT ALL, would be better than the life they're currently engrossed in.

Iraq was smart, but Tehran and Damascus MUST be included next.  Why the stall?  President Bush has stopped at Iraq and Afghanistan for whatever reason, whether political pressures of the election or maybe his lack of overall vision.  He himself must know by his words and actions so far that the only move available for the survival of the West is to keep up the pressure on the enemy.   Keeping them on the defensive, he says he decided to choose to fight the terrorist abroad rather than at home.

This is indeed a very reasonable and logical conclusion, but one that is worthless if not implemented on a scale commensurate with the danger being faced.  There are after all 1.5 billion Muslims and growing¦

The future may be unforeseeable, but it is not unimaginable.  Falling to defeat to the Arab Moslem terrorists would mean, as President Vladamir Putin has said, rivers of blood not just for Russia, but for civilized humanity.  You would not just see scores of beheadings, but hundreds of thousands of them.  This is what WILL happen - if the giant sleeps at all.

But really, no giant force has been seen yet, because there is such lack of consensus, and such a double standard being applied toward our surrounded Jewish allies under siege.  Israel could easily remove it's avowed genocidal enemy from it's midst, and with a minimum loss of life.  Instead, the strongest military power in that region sleeps.  Their citizens suffer, but the Road Map to appeasing their murderers must be adhered to (?), and because of this, there can be no victory against terror, there nor in the rest of the world.

There should be a single standard and doctrine applied without partiality wherever terror is found across the global chessboard, and this should be applied especially in the case of the PLO controlled areas under the evil spell of Yasser Arafat, who was the very person who spawned the global terrorist movement in the first place.  A single bullet would have nipped terror in the bud at any point along the way.  Instead Arafat was rewarded with an invitation to address the United Nations, and he did it armed with a gun.  With this double standard against Israel kept firmly in place by leftist appeasers of Arab terror and their helpers in the biased liberal media, terror was planted like a seed in the earth, and today it has sprouted it's rotten fruit.

What this means is no less than defeat.  There can be no victory, and no checkmate possible against the forces of darkness, because they are unified and are in fact a larger giant than the divided West.

The only way the West can alter the inevitable outcome of defeat to Islamic fascism is to force themselves to see the inevitability of their own defeat, and what that would mean to the citizens of Western civilization.  Defeat MUST be imagined, in order to supply a proportional level of motivation for survival.

Only God can save the sleeping giant.  He may well do so.  That is where the hopes of many Americans lies.  Even the strongest feelings of all American patriots on September 12th 2001 will not be sufficient impetus to muster the will and strategy required for the West to overcome what is certainly a very giant and satanic foe.   That giant has a very unified strategy in place, while the West gropes for any kind of consensus to act. I am praying ahead of time for the future victims of the kinds of murderous and monstrous events that will be required to awake the sleeping giant.

If this were really being fought as a war by a fully awake giant, you would see the American, British and Russian forces combine in a new Alliance, as they send their naval fleets fully in action, cutting through the Caspian and Mediteranean seas, making a gigantic show of force right off the coastlines near Tehran and Damascus, and they would be taking those countries over.  THAT is the only long-term strategy available to them, and it is not sufficient to just use the military. The largest strategic propaganda campaign ever devised must be waged.  In World War II they even used magic as a weapon.  Today this would be a highly effective and non-lethal weapon against a very superstitious people!

This is World War III.  It is merely a growing continuation of events from the unfinished World Wars I and II.   Before it ends badly for the West, we may actually see such forces mustered together so as to make the D-Day invasion look like Grenada in comparison.  Afterward, cult de-programming on a massive scale may be implemented.  Islamic Nazis need to see another version of God, with the errors of their own superstitions put under the bright light of Truth.

In order for the West to be able to say checkmate at the end of it's longest day of warfare against this intractable enemy, it will have to do absolutely no less than they did in the past.  But what are the odds that in this world of conflicting views and lack of consensus, that such a force could be unified in time to stave off defeat?  Probably about the same odds exist for President Bush again coming up with another correct pre-emptive move like he did with Afganistan and Iraq.  Politics is only one of the many chinks missing in the armor, under the soft underbelly of the still sleeping giant, who's worst nightmares today are nothing compared to the waking reality of the horrors to be faced throughout remaining days, however many there may be for the yet sleeping giant.


Octa-Commentary

Iraq Equals Israel For America

Measure for measure, the problems in Iraq are contingent upon the U.S. Israel policy

Rice Says Olmert, Abbas Agree to Talk PA State in DC
09:45 Jan 21, '07 / 2 Shevat 5767

(IsraelNN.com) U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Saturday that Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) both agreed to discuss parameters for the establishment of a formal PA state when they meet together in Washington next month.

Rice made the announcement as she was wrapping up her shuttle diplomacy tour of the Middle East and Europe.

U.S. reporters accompanying Rice quoted her as saying that the “informal” talks were suggested by Abbas. “I thought it was a very good idea,” she said. “Prime Minister Olmert though it was a good idea.”

Rice added that the talks were aimed at pushing the pace of getting Israel and the PA back on track with the American Road Map plan for a final settlement between the two parties.

On that same day...

Bloodiest day for US troops!

BAGHDAD: More than 25 Marines were killed across Iraq in one of the bloodiest days for US troops as the military said yesterday 3,200 new troops had arrived to quell Baghdad violence.

The US military in a series of statements piling up the body count, listed a helicopter crash, insurgent attacks and roadside bombs as being responsible for the high casualty rate.

On Saturday, 12 servicemen were killed in a helicopter crash, five in a clash with gunmen in the holy Shi'ite city of Karbala and five more in separate incidents in western Anbar, heartland of the Sunni insurgency, whose deaths were announced yesterday.

One soldier was killed when a roadside bomb hit his patrol north of Baghdad and two others died elsewhere.

The bloody toll came three days before US President George W Bush is expected to use his State of the Union address to Congress to argue again for his plan to send thousands more troops to Iraq, despite opposition from Democrats who now control both houses of the legislature.

US presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton reiterated her opposition Bush's decision to send 21,500 more US troops to Iraq.

She also strongly criticised Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Al Maliki saying she does not have "any faith" in his ability to bring security to Iraq.

Clinton, a Democratic senator, said the US government should threaten to cut funding for Iraq's forces to prod Baghdad into stepping up its efforts to control raging sectarian violence in Iraq.

She said in the interview that it was uncertain "whether there's a gap between Maliki's intentions and his will ... or whether he's doing what he intends to do."

"So you know, there's a mixed message at best, and I think that's what the Bush administration has never come to grips with," the New York senator said days after returning from Iraq.

British minister Peter Hain said the United States messed up the aftermath of the invasion of Iraq and made the situation in the country "far worse".

Hain last week denounced Bush as running the most right-wing American administration in living memory and said Bush's foreign policy had "failed wherever it's been tried".

A Newsweek poll found that more than two-thirds of Americans opposed sending 21,500 more troops to Iraq, the cornerstone of Bush's policy shift for the war-torn nation. About 68pc said Washington should not send additional troops, while 26pc support the increase.

Armed saboteurs set an oil well ablaze yesterday near the disputed northern city of Kirkuk. Gunmen overpowered soldiers guarding an oil field 45km west of Kirkuk, planted explosives at a well head and set them off, the Northern Iraqi Oil Company said. A spokesman for the national oil protection force, an army unit, said six soldiers had been disarmed and tied up by attackers who fled following the blast.

Meanwhile, historians are forecasting a 'bleak' prospect for Iraq. The Middle East historian David Fromkin sees a breakup of the jerry-built nation. Phebe Marr, doyenne of Iraq scholars, sees "distrust and suspicion" too deep to overcome. "Bleak," concludes Baghdad University's Saad Al Hadithi.

"At the moment," said the British historian Niall Ferguson, "a happy ending has a 1-in-100 look about it."

Mohamed El Sayed Said, of Cairo's Al Ahram Centre for Political and Strategic Studies, said he expects the growing US political opposition to the war will lead at some point to a redeployment of American troops to northern Iraq's Kurdistan and to elsewhere in the Gulf region.


Who's "We"?

October 22, 2005

Israel is an Arab nation.  Arabs are in the Knesset.  The Arab mind persuades the Jewish leadership, citizenry and Jews abroad, so that they make decisions against Jews in favor of terrorists. 

Who is a Jew?  Can any on the left who support ideas favoring the destruction of Israel be considered Jewish?  Who is really a Jew other than those who believe the promises offered through Moses?  Only those on the far, far right are right thinking on the defense of Israel, but it was their own wrong thinking that allowed a ficticious Arab run ad-campaign go untrumped and virtually unopposed - the lie of "occupation". 

"Occupation occupation" is all you ever hear, and is all you are ever GOING to hear from the Arab side, because they are sticking to the game plan, because they know it works.  It was the single most effective word in allowing the present day chess board to look as it does today; with many Arab pieces taking squares and the few Jewish pawns that have not yet been sacrificed to protect the queens in Israeli govenment forced into scrambling to the corners of the board, wondering where their knights are.

Turns out they got rooked - castrated by bishops.  And in reality it is the Christian world that is forcing the hand of governments, including Israel's - against Israel.  They are forcing them into making decisions that are continually shrinking the Land of Israel not only in size but in Jewish character.  Christendom is guilty of the Holocaust, and Christendom still has not reneged on her determined goal to get Israel out of Jerusalem, because they know that their own laity expect that a Christian ruler of the world will sit there one day, be it fact or fiction.  They expect wrongly to see Jews converted to Christianity or be destroyed at Armageddon.

And who is a "christian"?  There are very few Christians on the far far right enough to get what is going on in the Holy Land, because they are influenced so heavily by mainstream leadership and public opinion polling.  How many understand the Scriptures enough to understand that Jewish people should and must remain Jewish in character and identity in order to fulfill the very plan they hold in their hands when they read their own Christian Bibles?  Instead they have the said determined goal to remove the Jewish character and identity from the Jew himself, and strip all vestiges of the history of Israel from every square inch of the land of Israel.

This is no less than a Satanic plot, and those far right enough to see the truth of half of it already know that unseen hands are guiding the major players, whose number is so many that it cannot be a conspiracy of any human invention or guidance, even though they think they may be in control.  The conspiracy is unmasked when you see a literal spirit being called the devil who as the adversary of G-d is seeking to keep Him out of His own seat in Jerusalem.  I'm sure this is all very amusing to some.

And it's beside the point, because be it true or false, love it or hate it, the point is almost moot.  Meaning those Christians far right enough to share this message are A. not telling the Jews on the far right anything they don't already know, and B. are mostly drowned out by the shrill voices of mainstream Christendom on the left - and their media shills...

The only actual Jews in Israel are now relegated to refugee status, and are pitied as a minority homeless population.  In essence they have traded positions with the very group that was invented for the sole purpose of making this all come to pass - the PLO.  Well the world pitied Arafat so much as to allow him to address the U.N. with a gun and thinly veiled threats.  The Jews could come before the world with the cure for every disease, and the world will not have any more pity for Jews than they did in 1942! 

Actual Jews are now a tiny minority who are really at the mercy of their now distant cousins, the left wing majority, the party of Peres/Chamberlain.  Will they come to the defense of Eretz Israel?  Or will they continue to follow the path of demonizing the only real Jews left in the land of Israel, while they steer the ship of Israel with their own hands down a course set by the arabs who desire no less than Hitler desired.  

Saudi Arabia is the author peace initiative that is the central piece of the Road Map. And it was a leftist Jew, Thomas Friedman of the New York Times who brokered it to the world courtesy of his own imagined genius for peace making.  Thank you very much, but Friedman is not a real Jew, any more than Sharon himself is a Jew.  Neither is George Bush a Christian, nor any other leader in Washington.  Because only those who believe the PROMISES are Jews, and only those who understand that Jews must remain Jews, and must be in the land of Israel with a Jewish identity and character, are really Christians.

So who's "we"?  The very few friendless Jews and a few dozen Christian Zionists who are non-proselytizing.  These two groups form the apple of G-d's eye, and He will protect them.  You will see the humbling of the world - especially the Arab world and Christendom - soon and very soon, I'm afraid.  And thrilled!  At the prospects of a peace soon afterward, on the heals of the devil's machinations through mankinds folly.  There will be peace beyond the measure of men in the Kingdom.  But first there will be woe unto those who fight against that Kingdom!

Octaman



"they (Israel) will plunder the sons of the east. They will possess Edom and Moab. And the sons of Ammon will be subject to them."

From the prophetic 1993 booklet
The Israeli-Arab Peace Process and Bible Prophecy
Peace, Peace When There Is No Peace

Isaiah 11:14-16 also speaks of the smiting of a sea and a river (again in Hebrew not the Euphrates) in connection with a large immigration of Jews from Assyria to Israel. Verse 13 parallels Jeremiah 3:18 the "house of Judah" and the "house of Israel" become one in Diaspora and return "together" to the Promised Land. Verse 14 shows any peace agreement will explode in a two-front war on Israel's southwest and eastern borders. "They (Israel) shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines toward the west (Gaza strip on the southwest Mediterranean coast where the Palestinians now reside)." The Hebrew literally means a flying attack from behind. The picture becomes even more vivid as the Hebrew for "shoulders" in Numbers 34:11 refers to a maritime coast-"the side (shoulder) of the sea." Any Palestinian state or self-rule on the Gaza Strip will be short lived. Eventually, Israel by missiles or planes will circle out into the Mediterranean and attack the Palestinians from behind. Then the war shifts to the eastern front and verse 13 (NAS) continues-"they (Israel) will plunder the sons of the east. They will possess Edom and Moab. And the sons of Ammon will be subject to them."


August 11, 2005

Gaza pullout = death of millions?

Arafat's gift to the world is the gift that keeps on giving the world a headache, which is getting worse and worse in exact proportion to the world's rising level of double standard regarding the people and the land of Israel.

In my own personal view, the level of worldwide terror, the number of people killed, the number of cities and countries involved, and sheer number of terror incidents occurring, will rise in direct proportion to the way the world treats Israel. 

To me these things are not connected directly in a way seen by the natural eye, but spiritually connected. 

The United States difficulties in Iraq are a result of their forcing Israel to coddle Arafat so many years, and now american soldiers are experiencing what Jewish soldiers have been forced to deal with all these years.  Thanks to america's insistence that the Israel not fight back, but instead cave in to terror with the gift of land for terror, the export of terror has blossomed. 

The message to Arab terror that their work pays off in nothing less than the destruction of the state of Israel will encourage and embolden all of them at this juncture in their worldwide Jihad.  This can only hasten the day of their inevitable usage of the most destructive weapons they can find, and that they will use them in the United States is a given.

Even if you were to ignore the spiritual side completely, from a purely pragmatic standpoint of fighting terror, Israel and the United States plan to give the gift of the Gaza region to the late Arafat's chronies in exchange for nothing but rockets and blood is a precedent that spells certain doom for some poor innocent souls on this earth. 

From the standpoint of international law, it is unprecedented for a democracy to uproot thousands of it's own people from their lawful homes, by force, based purely on their religion.

It is gauling to anyone's sense of justice that Jews be encouraged to acquiesce territory  to stop terror, and to release terrorists in order to stop terror, and then of course to arm these terrorists to stop terror, and to provide them with sea and airports to bring in more weapons for terror, and then perhaps to import Osama Bin Laden himself...

And then again perhaps that is the plan.  Maybe Sharon and Bush have conspired to have all the terrorists congregate in one place, on the beaches of Gaza, in order to wipe them out completely.  If not, then that's too bad for the poor innocent souls on the earth, because then the shoe is on their foot.

Bible Students have reported from the very beginning that "Palestine" and the so-called "Palestinian people" are nothing but a ruse, perpetrated by arabs worldwide.  They are a fictional people created as a "wedge" to destroy Israel. 

This is but a step in their well published and publicized long range plans to enslave and destroy all the free peoples of the world.

In my view, the Arab world are the "Edomites" of Obadiah.  Read that prophet to see how the story really proceeds.

Octaman


This War of Subjugation
April 7 2003 at 7:09 PM

I'll pose this thought and you can discuss it if you like:

In order for Western Civilization to survive the next one hundred years, they must subjugate the Arab hoardes.

The religion of Islam does not allow for the existence of the western world. They must be converted or be destroyed. They have no choice as good muslims. It's Jihad forever, until they either die or rule the world.

That's what this current war is really all about. It's not about oil, and it's not about liberation, and it's only partially about weapons of mass destruction.

After 9/11 occurred, the logical thinkers in government got the message. They sat down and began planning how to return the message in kind. This is the result.
They picked out the biggest baddest foe in the entire Arab world, planted a great big boot right in the middle of their house, and now they are staring at Tehran, Damascus, and Riyahd. They are saying to the Arab world, "Here we are. NOW try something like that again!"

Now of course the Government cannot admit to this. The most radical talk radio would never touch the topic. It's not politically correct to say the truth: This is a religious war, and a race war. And it's their only chance to continue to exist.

I realize that this is not the Scriptural viewpoint, but the natural viewpoint. Is it not their only logical and correct viewpoint?


Octaman

So, as it now stands...

ISRAEL once again is center stage!


April 14 2003 at 7:03 AM

 Response to This War of Subjugation

In spite of all the liberal hand-wringing and socialist/communist opposition, Allied forces took over the entire country of Iraq in only three weeks. They have indeed planted themselves in the middle of the Middle East and have begun saying hello to their new neighbors in Tehran and especially Damascus.

"Hello, we're your new neighbors! Can we borrow a cup of sugar? Do you have any chemical weapons? Well can I come in and look? Because if not, it's just about an hours drive from here to Damascus by TANK!"

And now that things are going so overwhemingly well, the leaders of the "free world" are discussing the next part of their plan - the parting of Eretz Israel. This issue was dovetailed to the Iraq war from the start. In order to gain concessions and aid from Arab nations in the war effort it was necessary to tell them that the Palestinian State would follow.

Ariel Sharon spoke in the ultra left wing "Ha'aretz" just yesterday to the effect that they are willing to part with Biblical lands for peace. Of all the enemies of Israel and the Zionist dream of regathering to the Holy Land, the greatest enemy is the Israeli government itself.

By their human logic, things should work just like their plan for Iraq did, just as smoothly. Put the foot down and make demands, and people will co-operate, now that the tanks and battleships are in sight. Israel will withdraw, and Palestinians will behave peaceably in their own state - But their fight is now against the God of Israel. The Jews will NOT abandon their Biblical lands, and all governments of the world will be against them - those who hold to the Biblical Zionist dream.

The War in Iraq has put an idea in the minds of the Arab/Socialist axis: If Israel won't co-operate in leaving Judea and Samaria, simply invade with overwhelming force. Ezekiel 38 speaks of this invasion coming upon "the land of unwalled villages." We have long thought this referred to the settlements, which by the way, weren't formerly outside the confines of an actual literal wall, as they are today. And the description of the invasion is "like a swarm" - which is the only method by which they might effectively negate Israel's military edge, and nuclear capabilities. They won't nuke Moscow AND Damascus, etc.

And, as in the Ezekiel 38 vision, The U.S. and U.K. won't hardly protest much, since their plans of Palestinian Statehood are being defied. They may complain slightly, but that's about it. They won't intervene militarily.

The stage is set, and Israel is once again in the center of it. The miracle of the Iraq war is the live television coverage! The Lord will be exalted in the eyes of the heathen over THIS ONE EVENT! Then the Kingdom will be ushered in publicly.

These are just my thoughts on one possible scenario.

Octaman

U.S. on thin prophetic ice... 

May 5 2002, 1:59 PM

Dear Friend,

While I don't think any of those verses apply to the United States, or the literal burning of any cities save for the ancient cities cited in Ezekiel, I do think that oil is acting as a strong magnet drawing the nations toward armageddon.

I don't believe that "anarchy" means that the cities will burn. "Anarchy" simply means the lack of government, a situation where each individual governs themselves. I believe we are living in virtual anarchy today.

This is not to say that there is not to be any literal cities burning, because there may be. Any day we may see the first use of nuclear weapons somewhere in the world. I believe most of the action will take place on the middle east stage. Syria's capitol of Damascus is a possible prophetic target.

As the U.S. seeks to expand it's access to the oil resource, more and more the middle east scenario grows difficult for them. Unable to pass the Anwar Alaska drilling project through congress, the only other place in the world where they may gain access to oil is in the Caspian sea. 

This may explain the buildup of U.S. forces in Afghanistan. U.S. need for oil certainly explains their continual courtship of the evil Saudi government and other Arab countries. This creates the situation that has been ongoing for some years now, where the U.S. while appearing to be friendly toward Israel, has actually been favoring the Arabs all along.

The U.S. cares not at all whether or not Israel survives, or whether or not there is a "Palestinian State." However they will do whatever is necessary to procure their own share of the resources, and that means currying the favor of the Arabs by sacrificing Israel's security.Therefore, we know that the U.S. is on thin ice with God. 

He will not leave nations unpunished who treat Israel with such enmity as the U.S. secretly has for over 50 years now. In their haste to part the Holy Land for their own expediency, they only hasten their own judgment.

Octaman

U.S. Walking in Israel's Steps

Al-Sadr All Powerful?

August 6, 2004


The failure of the U.S. forces to stop Al-Sadr in Najaf has resulted in the wildfire of resistance that refuses to die out.  All efforts in Iraq depend on stabilizing security there, but more importantly stopping another Islamic state from being born, in whole or in pieces.  It may be inevitable.

In the same manner that Israel has allowed Arafat to survive for what appears to be the sole purpose of killing their people again and again, the U.S. has allowed Al-Sadr to become a general in his own right, commanding attacks that have resulted in many U.S. casualties.  In their own parallel universe alongside Israel, the U.S. is allowing "appeasement" to leach into it's philosophy of "war on terror" - and these concepts are not compatible.  The result is, America is receiving back in  recompense of judgment the same kind of casualties that it has caused to come upon Israeli soldiers and citizens, by insisting on their own "appeasement" of their enemies - enforcing an anti-semitic double standard upon Israel will result only in further American difficulties.  A wise policy toward Israeli sovereignty and away from rewarding terrorism, vis. a vis. the destruction of "the Road Map" would be the first step toward success in Pres. Bush's vision of a free Iraq.

Octaman



The World against God

posted  by Octaman, June 9, 2004

The whole world is lined up in solid phalanx behind the "Palestinian" people, but more specifically, AGAINST the Jewish "settlers", that they are willing to forcibly evict Jews JUST AS THEY DID IN THE 1930's, only this time it is from their own land of Israel.

Because of  this course of folly called the "Road Map" that  the world leaders all promote, including the not guiltless current government of Israel, JUDGMENT COMES.

Because "My ways are higher than your ways" says YAHWEH, and because His Opinion is the only one that matters, the world is about to be stopped dead in it's tracks.

It is my sincere hope that millions of people now living may not die, but I am saddened to think of its inevitability as the world hurdles itself headlong against the very ROCK of Offence, the very Christ of the Passion , who is the SON of the Highest - the Heavenly Father Yahweh.

Unless the world turns from their course, and supports the increasing of the Jewish population of  Judea, Samaria and Gaza, they will experience something more bitter than World Wars One and Two combined, I'm afraid.

The city will NEVER be divided!  Unless THE JEWISH CHARACTER of Israel is undeniably affirmed, there will be WAR.

INSTEAD OF MOVING THE U.S.  EMBASSY TO JERUSALEM, THE USA IS FOLLOWING THE "ROAD MAP" TO DESTRUCTION.

"Seek Righteousness.  Seek Meekness.  It may be ye shall be hid in the day of the Lord's anger." Zep 2:3




Don't we all worship the same God?

  • Or don't Moslems teach that it was not Isaac but Ishmael who was offered as a sacrifice by Abraham?
  • And that Jesus was a Palestinian freedom fighter who led the revolt against Rome?
  • And that he did not say "Eli Eli" on the cross but "Allah Allah"!
  • And don't they teach that any who are not subjugated to their religion must be maimed or killed?
  • Don't they leave their friday prayer service in Saudi Arabia and head directly to "chop chop square" to witness executions?
  • Isn't their goal the complete domination of the entire world?
  • And isn't Israel the only thing standing in their way?
  • As it says on the flags of the PLO, (who just re-named an elementary school after one of their suicide bombers)
  • "First we will kill all the Saturday people (Jews) and then we will kill all the Sunday people (Christians)!"
  • Do we really worship the same God?
  • Or isn't Islam a demonic religion led by the Prince of demons himself - Satan?

Yours,

Oc

Response by Trthspkr
September 22 2001, 9:31 AM

Agreed on all points Octaman     

The difference being seen by the fruits displayed. those of Yahweh in Christ are an outgrowth of love for all humanity, whereas those of Allah are of violence to selfish ends which has been Satan's modus operandi from the beginning.

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Nice point. Now isn't "Allah" an ancient Jinn or Genie - one of many demons manifested in ancient Caana? Isn't he also known as "Baal"? Isn't he the one to whom the wicked ones sacrificed their children to in the fire, which never came into God's mind? That's from Jeremiah. Ah yes, and isn't the more modern manifestation of this fire seen in the theory of "eternal torment"? Ah, and isn't the God dishonoring doctrine of "eternal torment" still championed by those who adhere to the "trinty" doctrine?

I think we've got an awfully tall totem so far! How many more ugly heads can we stack on it?




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